February 23, 2020
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 on: December 02, 2019 
Started by Jimmy - Last post by John Ruskan
Yes, forgiveness is only necessary or possible when you believe the other is responsible for what happened to you and for your feeling experience. When you take responsibility for your experience and drop blame, you bypass the need for forgiveness. Forgiveness is no longer required since you now see that the other was not really the primary cause of your pain.

When people talk about the need to forgive, they are still operating on a lower level of consciousness. They still believe that they are a victim, and that the other was the cause of their pain. They do not understand the first basic principle of EC work, that the inner suppressed negative attracts experiences to us, in other words, that's Karma in action. Trying to force yourself to "forgive" when you still blame the other is a pseudo-spiritual mind twist that can never really lead to satisfactory results.

I go into this in more detail in the EC book, to which I would refer you.

True forgiveness is the realization that blame was a mistake.

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 on: December 01, 2019 
Started by Jimmy - Last post by Jimmy
Hello
There is much talk about how forgiveness is an important step in healing.  It seems with Emo Clear since we take responsibility and ownership for what we are feeling forgiveness is not a required step to releasing.  Is this an accurate assumption or is there more to this?  Many thanks

Jim

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 on: November 20, 2019 
Started by Luigi Sunday - Last post by herrybraun
I am Herry, single male from Leeds, UK. I am sales and marketing head at local cosmetic clinic Call Lane Aesthetics. I am new in this forum and welcome all users here.

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 on: October 28, 2019 
Started by Jimmy - Last post by John Ruskan
Thanks so much for sharing. I've been through the same experience. When you apply the EC steps to the grief - just accepting, feeling it deeply and witnessing - it dissipates instead of getting trapped inside.

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 on: October 28, 2019 
Started by Jimmy - Last post by Jimmy
I recently lost a pet and a lot of sadness and grief was experienced.  Anyone who has had a fur buddy knows the bond we have.   The few days afterwards, I kept doing the clearing process guided by the online course and the relief I felt was immense.  Yes I still felt sad and cried but the process and the steps allowed a release and processing that was of great value  for me.  It allowed me to experience the feelings, pain and get them out instead of suppressing them.  After years of studying other kinds of emotional work I so appreciate to John and his work.  After studying the theory and experiencing the process I now understand why a lot of therapy work is just a bypass and misses the mark.  

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 on: September 03, 2019 
Started by Bca - Last post by Bca
Thank you for your reply and explanation, I appreciate it.

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 on: September 02, 2019 
Started by Bca - Last post by John Ruskan
Energy psychologies do not usually involve specific reprogramming of the subconscious. They apply various energetic techniques which propose tp bring negativity to the surface and release it. The EC format can be quite helpful here, applied to the feelings that will come up during the treatment. Traditional hypnotherapy attempts to take advantage of the suggestibility of the alpha state to reprogram past trauma, but in my view, this is a mistaken quest. Even Freud gave up trying to effect healing with hypnosis. Negative feelings stored in the subconscious just cannot be modified by administering positive imagery or feelings, in my opinion, based on my experience. They must be directly released with some method such as the EC Process.

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 on: August 29, 2019 
Started by Bca - Last post by Bca
Hello Mr Ruskan,
I am asking this question out of intellectual curiosity. You previously said that the subconscious cannot be reprogrammed - how then do you view practices such as energy psychology and hypnotherapy? I myself do not feel inclined towards them, although I have seen people have some success with them, but I do want to understand how they do or do not work for healing.
Kind regards,

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 on: July 25, 2019 
Started by Luigi Sunday - Last post by Luigi Sunday
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There is a lot of negativity in the world, and it can stimulate the negativity we hold within, contributing to the chaos we experience. You are going through tough times. Let's assume this is a period of intense cleansing, perhaps a lifetime when you have chosen to work on yourself.  Such deep work can lead to a period of disorientation, as you are describing, when feelings that have been buried for lifetimes are coming up to be cleared. You do seem to be knowledgeable about psychology, but don't hesitate to seek out individual help. You may need more than just the AA meetings. Take it slow. The EC processing principles still work with extreme difficulties, you just have to remember to carefully apply them, especially the witnessing step. Keep going to the feelings behind the chaos. I would also advise you to emphasize working with the EC Induction everyday, to strengthen your aura and to ground you - you need psychic protection and basic stability before working with serious emotional states. Work with the light and the earth, as described in the EC book. Thanks for sharing. Maybe some other people will have helpful feedback.
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Thanks John. Good to know you are there and you invest time in reading and commenting with your experience. I understand there is something open that makes it easier to project and loose objectivity.It gives me assurance to know you share with me the attitude of seeing this as a period of intense cleansing.I feel specially ashamed and feel weak to have jealousy feelings. There must be ego in it. I'll have present your advice of seeking individual help. I feel I have runned out of relationships that I can trust and not feel judged about my feelings. This Forum is nice place to share sincerely and directly.I totally agree that it is important to be in the witness. Eckhart Tolles meditations have been helpfull with it, observing, beeing in the body, surrendering. Today I thought my ego has been under stress...it even makes me laugh.It must be hard for it and maybe it's that that has a fear of dying also. I will research for the EC Induction in your website and in your book. I bought a spanish version 8 years ago and I found an electronic version of the revised version. As a person that has had the advantage of reading a lot, and rationalizing, and thinking, you presented a whole new world 8 years ago when I read your book, and I feel I am experiencing that world at an emotional level. The negative first, but I have faith it is just a stage previous to liberation. I had not had nightmares since 8 years ago, and when I started breathing again, I had that old nightmare of a sort of entity coming to visit and feed from my energy. I consulted with my friend who is a certified rebirthing facilitator and he said it was normal that those entities feel threatened. I understand it's the pain body, and a reaction of the pain body to higher levels of prana and consciousness. Eckhart Tolles pain body concept is very simple and usefull, how he describes it feeding from thoughts and situations and of others reactions. I like it's simple way. I have been in fourth way schools and read Ouspenski and Gurdjieff which explains in an esoteric way, what Tolle is explaining in simple ways. I like the idea and the vision of seeing myself as consciousness that can observe alchemy going on in this space, of the transmutation of this negative feelings and thoughts into consciousness. Of this pain and emotions beeing the fuel to the light of consciousness.Thanks for your work John, I feel it has been a door to enter another reality.

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 on: July 25, 2019 
Started by Luigi Sunday - Last post by John Ruskan
There is a lot of negativity in the world, and it can stimulate the negativity we hold within, contributing to the chaos we experience. You are going through tough times. Let's assume this is a period of intense cleansing, perhaps a lifetime when you have chosen to work on yourself.  Such deep work can lead to a period of disorientation, as you are describing, when feelings that have been buried for lifetimes are coming up to be cleared. You do seem to be knowledgeable about psychology, but don't hesitate to seek out individual help. You may need more than just the AA meetings. Take it slow. The EC processing principles still work with extreme difficulties, you just have to remember to carefully apply them, especially the witnessing step. Keep going to the feelings behind the chaos. I would also advise you to emphasize working with the EC Induction everyday, to strengthen your aura and to ground you - you need psychic protection and basic stability before working with serious emotional states. Work with the light and the earth, as described in the EC book. Thanks for sharing. Maybe some other people will have helpful feedback.

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