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Hello,

I purchased the book Deep Clearing a month ago and have been practicing the emotional clearing process at least 1-3 per week.

I feel like it's working to some extent, but when doing the meditation I feel like my brain has to compartmentalize each step and it doesn't allow me the chance to full relax into it? I also feel like when I reach alpha, trying to tap into my subconscious pulls me out of it, because I then prompt myself to recall an emotion. Does anyone have this issue?

For example I will do Deep Relaxation, Awareness, Acceptance, Direct Experience, and Witnessing.

but sometimes my subconscious will bring forth an emotion, feeling or memory at various points during these stages. It's not very linear. I also will do the practice of asking my Subconscious to show me what the core emotion is behind my feeling, but I find brain creating a logical and rationale root of the emotion or forcing a memory. And I can't tell if this is me straining to make something happen.

I also don't always know which feeling I want to go with at times. I have so many emotions that I have been battling from various circumstances family relationships, child hood, toxic relationships, finances, jobs, self esteem, inadequacy etc. It's hard to kind of just pick one. Even though they all kind of point to the same origin, that I can't quite put into words. Has anyone else struggled with this as well?

Not sure if this makes sense. I am hoping the process will just continue to get easier with practice. But I have realized I have a hard time meditating in a step by step process.

I have tried incorporating a mantra meditation for the first 10 minutes to help ease me into a alpha state, and then asking my Subconscious, what needs to be felt at this time. And weaving in acceptance and witnessing throughout. As the mind will naturally flow in and out of a witnessing state.

I have had some progress though..

I have noticed that I can identify a energetic sensation on the right side of my throat when doing in this practice. I also had an intense session where I felt a heavy blockage in the pit of my stomach/solar plexus. The more I leaned into the feeling, without expecting my subconscious to reveal some hidden secret, the more intense the feeling got. It was like a burning of energy in my solar plexus area. I haven't felt it as intensely since. However, throughout my day I can feel the sensation of fear coursing through my body. Not in a bad way. But it seems like the fearful energy is finally flowing instead of remaining stagnant.

I guess my overall question is: Is there a way to approach this practice in a more fluid nature, since the 1-6 steps in a linear way can feel overwhelming and bring me back into left brain thinking.
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This would be a good question for Jung. He would probably say it’s not something you have to worry about. But if in fact anyone ever does arrive at a clean subconsious, their dream states may evolve into more vivid dreams reflecting astral experiences of all sorts, which they will start to remember upon awakening.
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Congratulations on doing the work. The purpose of addictions is to cover over suppressed feelings. When the addictions are stopped, the suppressed feelings will start to emerge, but first there may be / probably will be anxiety or what you are calling restlessness. I don’t know if we could say the ego is purposefully inciting the restlessness. Take it as the opportunity to sit in meditation, first accepting the restlessness and taking it through the steps and then watch for the emerging feelings. On the other hand, don’t be too hard on yourself and demand that you must be perfect. I believe the wifi atmosphere has a lot to do with existential feelings of anxiety that we all experience. We have to take it as just another challenge.
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Hi John,

I hope it is ok to ask this question as the topic somewhat sits outside of your books.

I often find myself wondering and pondering the result of an empty subconscious, or at least a "clean" subconscious.

Since starting the work, I have found that my sleep and meditations have gradually changed. I find that when awakening from sleep or meditation, I can barely remember having any dreams, or the prior moments of my meditation. Both now feel very similar to a deep trance state that I struggle to recall.

This led to me ask the question of; once the contents of the subconscious has been released, what becomes of the individuals dream or meditation life. If our dreams are based on the contents of the subconscious mind, what would happen once we have released all of the "junk" from it.

Thanks again.
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Hi John,

I hope you are well.

I have been working through the process of releasing the contents of the subconscious for a few years now. In this time I have made great progress, and have noticed significant changes in my physical, emotional and mental wellbeing.

However I am still struggling with a few addictions - the Internet, social media and food addictions specifically. I find that when I abstain from any of these activities, I am faced with feelings of restlessness. The longer I do not indulge in any of these activities, the stronger the feeling becomes. The maximum amount of time I have been able to avoid these addictions has been 3 days at which point the restlessness became overwhelming.

I am familiar with the workings of the ego and wanted to ask whether restlessness is a method employed by the ego? My thought process is that maybe if I can understand the nature of the restlessness, I can move closer towards accepting it.

Thank you.
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Thank you, John.

I have been working my way through the process, and have achieved great strides in many areas. However, with one particularly traumatic childhood event, I am struggling to open the door. I think it's because my subconscious is used to locking it down so far and so deep as a survival mechanism, that it has become diligently trained and inflexible. Sort of like those Russian dolls with multiple layers of defense. I am continuing to work on it, but part of me wondered if it was perhaps related to my intentions. That is why I went back to  the beginning to look at what you advised. I appreciate your input and direction. I am now working on a letter to my younger self giving permission to open that door and experience that level of fear and terror again; letting her know this is essential to moving forward.

Stephanie
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OK!
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I am just trying to emphacize the desirability of going beyond ego orientation in mystical work of this nature. To truly come into the moment, you have to go beyond personal agenda. However, I can see where the statement can be confusing. Just ignore it and proceed. Maybe later it will make more sense to you as you develop third eye transcendental experience. Glad you are a careful reader.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / followup on "in the weeds"
« Last post by jocelyn on August 28, 2023 »
Hello,

Last night I realized what had happened before I posted "in the weeds." A week or so ago I wrote an eight-verse poem about being "in the weeds." To submit it to this Forum, I converted it into a purely prosaic, artless version of the same subject.

I see, now, very clearly, that in that poem I had focused solely on the concept of duality, and I wrongly subconsciously thought that by doing that, I could avoid dealing with my feelings about the topic. In other words, I had completely compartmentalized emotions and duality, which won't work in the long run.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify!

Jocelyn
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Hi. I am new to this forum, and have been working on Deep Clearing. There was a statement on page 68 that said,

"You can't accept in order to make better, benefit yourself, to get even, or even to heal yourself."

I found this very confusing. I thought the purpose of clearing was to process the built-up negative feeling energy of our subconscious, which to me means healing. What am I missing?

I am finding great value in the process, but still haven't been able to reconcile the experience as something that isn't intended to heal or make better. I would welcome your insight.


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