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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: followup on "in the weeds"
« Last post by John Ruskan on August 28, 2023 »OK!
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: Confusion on Statement Regarding Acceptance Step in Processing.
« Last post by John Ruskan on August 28, 2023 »I am just trying to emphacize the desirability of going beyond ego orientation in mystical work of this nature. To truly come into the moment, you have to go beyond personal agenda. However, I can see where the statement can be confusing. Just ignore it and proceed. Maybe later it will make more sense to you as you develop third eye transcendental experience. Glad you are a careful reader.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / followup on "in the weeds"
« Last post by jocelyn on August 28, 2023 »Hello,
Last night I realized what had happened before I posted "in the weeds." A week or so ago I wrote an eight-verse poem about being "in the weeds." To submit it to this Forum, I converted it into a purely prosaic, artless version of the same subject.
I see, now, very clearly, that in that poem I had focused solely on the concept of duality, and I wrongly subconsciously thought that by doing that, I could avoid dealing with my feelings about the topic. In other words, I had completely compartmentalized emotions and duality, which won't work in the long run.
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify!
Jocelyn
Last night I realized what had happened before I posted "in the weeds." A week or so ago I wrote an eight-verse poem about being "in the weeds." To submit it to this Forum, I converted it into a purely prosaic, artless version of the same subject.
I see, now, very clearly, that in that poem I had focused solely on the concept of duality, and I wrongly subconsciously thought that by doing that, I could avoid dealing with my feelings about the topic. In other words, I had completely compartmentalized emotions and duality, which won't work in the long run.
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify!
Jocelyn
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Confusion on Statement Regarding Acceptance Step in Processing.
« Last post by Skrlmr on August 27, 2023 »Hi. I am new to this forum, and have been working on Deep Clearing. There was a statement on page 68 that said,
"You can't accept in order to make better, benefit yourself, to get even, or even to heal yourself."
I found this very confusing. I thought the purpose of clearing was to process the built-up negative feeling energy of our subconscious, which to me means healing. What am I missing?
I am finding great value in the process, but still haven't been able to reconcile the experience as something that isn't intended to heal or make better. I would welcome your insight.
"You can't accept in order to make better, benefit yourself, to get even, or even to heal yourself."
I found this very confusing. I thought the purpose of clearing was to process the built-up negative feeling energy of our subconscious, which to me means healing. What am I missing?
I am finding great value in the process, but still haven't been able to reconcile the experience as something that isn't intended to heal or make better. I would welcome your insight.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: in the weeds
« Last post by jocelyn on August 26, 2023 »Points well taken.
Thank you.
Jocelyn
P.S: More than likely, working with my feelings directly is all I need to do!
Thank you.
Jocelyn
P.S: More than likely, working with my feelings directly is all I need to do!
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: Embodying shame
« Last post by Ila on August 25, 2023 »Taking this thread slightly off topic but what would a core feeling outside of shame be?
I stumbled on John’s latest book today (thank God) and have devoured it and even attempted to sit with some feelings. What is becoming quickly apparent to me is that I’m “feeling-illiterate. “ Based on what I’ve read so far that means I’m out of touch with my body which makes sense. I can feel feelings but it’s like those typically identified as negative all feel the same and I struggle labeling them.
I have major work to do and more reading (I’m on page 79)… but I’m wondering how important labeling the feeling is when working with it? Can I witness a feeling when I can’t properly identify it? Should I take a step back and learn about feelings to work with them properly? That likely sounds funny but when you dodge them long enough you don’t really get to know them.
And, John… huge thanks for writing your books. Ignoring feelings has been disastrous, mantras haven’t felt authentic, attempts to put a positive spin on feelings has compounded issues.
Everything I’ve read so far in Deep Clearing resonates so deeply. Thank you!
I stumbled on John’s latest book today (thank God) and have devoured it and even attempted to sit with some feelings. What is becoming quickly apparent to me is that I’m “feeling-illiterate. “ Based on what I’ve read so far that means I’m out of touch with my body which makes sense. I can feel feelings but it’s like those typically identified as negative all feel the same and I struggle labeling them.
I have major work to do and more reading (I’m on page 79)… but I’m wondering how important labeling the feeling is when working with it? Can I witness a feeling when I can’t properly identify it? Should I take a step back and learn about feelings to work with them properly? That likely sounds funny but when you dodge them long enough you don’t really get to know them.
And, John… huge thanks for writing your books. Ignoring feelings has been disastrous, mantras haven’t felt authentic, attempts to put a positive spin on feelings has compounded issues.
Everything I’ve read so far in Deep Clearing resonates so deeply. Thank you!
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: in the weeds
« Last post by John Ruskan on August 25, 2023 »Thanks for sharing, but these questions call for a highly speculative philosophical reply and are not what I consider myself to be a prime resource on. Perhaps other readers may want to join in. However, I might suggest that you focus on accepting your feelings as they are, instead of intellectually focusing on future events or circumstances. You are not to be concerned with trying to accept death or not, but what are your feelings about death? Always take it to a feeling level and work with those feelings. Most likely you have fear - so that's your starting point. As you work with / integrate fear or whatever else comes up for you, it will modify your 'acceptance' of death itself.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / in the weeds
« Last post by jocelyn on August 24, 2023 »John,
I would not be on this field trip 'in the weeds' right now were it not for the possibility of World War III. I'm against being killed that or any other similar way. Can ACCEPTING violent kinds of death without resistance HELP release me from the "curse" of desires to move toward The Light and the Light alone?
Painful as that kind of death might be, could I relate to it as I would toward any other event--knowing the "pendulum" (of experience) has swung away from The Light and that I can look forward to its perpetual return AND release?
Can bad Karma come just from an addiction to the need to hold EXCLUSIVELY on to The Light?
It's said Higher Self can endure whatever life experiences we have--"It's 'all good.'" If my feeling that "it's all good" is healthy, it's also good if I have not yet grasped that.
Jocelyn
I would not be on this field trip 'in the weeds' right now were it not for the possibility of World War III. I'm against being killed that or any other similar way. Can ACCEPTING violent kinds of death without resistance HELP release me from the "curse" of desires to move toward The Light and the Light alone?
Painful as that kind of death might be, could I relate to it as I would toward any other event--knowing the "pendulum" (of experience) has swung away from The Light and that I can look forward to its perpetual return AND release?
Can bad Karma come just from an addiction to the need to hold EXCLUSIVELY on to The Light?
It's said Higher Self can endure whatever life experiences we have--"It's 'all good.'" If my feeling that "it's all good" is healthy, it's also good if I have not yet grasped that.
Jocelyn
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: followup on Mr-Patrick's posts
« Last post by jocelyn on August 10, 2023 »I appreciate your response.
Interestingly, right after I left posting at the library, that same basic answer to my post came to me.
Must have been having a "senior moment."
Jocelyn
Interestingly, right after I left posting at the library, that same basic answer to my post came to me.
Must have been having a "senior moment."
Jocelyn
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: followup on Mr-Patrick's posts
« Last post by John Ruskan on August 10, 2023 »In theory, we attract people who correspond to our emotional holdings, or with whom we have karmic relationships. As we release those suppressed feelings, we assume the relationship is likely to spontaneously change so that it no longer is experienced as being so oppressive. However, real life situations call for an enlightened judgment about whether to continue or break off or maintain protective boundaries after you may feel you have released much of your personal negativity. I think it can be assumed that you gain a clarity about how to proceed as you work on yourself, no one can advise you about this.