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apisac

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mindbody syndrome and physical pain
« on: March 15, 2014 »
Dear John,

I read your book Emotional Clearing and bought the training mp3s and found them a huge help and a revelation. My question is specific to something that has been called 'mindbody syndrome'. You do mention physical symptoms of any kind to point to suppressed and denied emotions. This is very clear to me. However, the community of mindbody coaches that I have sought help with endorsees a specific strategy to deal with emotions connected to the illness and pain themselves. There is a belief that obsessing about the physical symptoms - thoughts and feelings of mainly fear and powerlessness regarding the condition - are believed to be a 'smart' strategy of the mindbody to keep suppressing more important feelings. They advise to ignore the thoughts and feelings regarding the physical symptoms. In the normal awareness, when fear and panic arise, they advise to turn inward to the body and find other feelings apart from fear from illness. Even in a meditative state, while tuning into the body, they advise to ignore the sensations of pain. I have a problem with this approach. For example, I have had a history of painful bladder, skin condition and now am experiencing lower back and sciatica pain. The physical examinations of all these conditions came back with results 'there is nothing wrong with me'. I am committed to the path of inner work and strongly believe that my suppressed emotions and blocked energies are causing the physical pain. However, I feel there is something quite wrong with ignoring the physical symptoms and the emotions around them. The physical pain at the moment is constant and my emotions of fear, anger and helplessness are very strong all the time. I would be grateful if you could share your view on this. Thank you so much.

All very best
Andrea

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014 »
It's called "Mind-Body," but it should really be called Mind-Feelings-Body. The Mind and Feelings are two separate subtle bodies, along with the physical, that have distinct characteristics. Mind relates to thoughts and beliefs; Feelings relate to emotions. All the bodies affect each other. I see physical illness as primarily caused by the build-up of negativity in the Feeling Body, not because of beliefs held in the Mind.

Then, there are (at least) two kinds of feelings: reactive emotions and core feelings. The reactive emotion is a mostly involuntary reaction to the core feeling, and it can come from the mind, as well as having a base in the Feeling center. Let's say you have a lot of anger about an abandonment experience. The anger is your reaction; it can come from the mind, from the belief that you shouldn't be alone, that you are outraged that you have to go through this experience, etc. Fear, as another example, could be a reactive emotion, or it could actually be a core feeling.

In theory, reactive feelings that come from the mind can be put aside so you can focus on the core feeling behind it. This appears to be what your coaches are saying. If you continue to focus on the reactive anger, to continue that example, you could be spinning your wheels because you're not getting to the core feeling, which is what's mostly responsible for the illness and symptoms. You're in blame, you're worrying, obsessing, and even building the anger. I'm actually curious if there is a school of psychology that you are referencing, because this is a subtle distinction that I wouldn't expect many modern (especially CBT) therapists to understand.

However, in practice, we start with what we have. Often, there is first an awareness of only the reactive emotion. We have anger, but don't see the core. The anger can even obscure the core feeling. So, we start by processing the anger, but - with the understanding that this may be a reactive emotion, and if so, we expect to release it quickly, and then we'll see the core feeling, where we want to devote our main efforts.

There is nothing wrong with processing a reactive emotion in this manner. Don't forget - the EC process includes acceptance and witnessing - key, crucial elements that you have not mentioned. This state is totally different from just thinking about the anger - mulling it over or obsessing over it.

Reactive emotions can build up also, and then they start to become part of the subconscious Feeling Body, so that they may very well need to be acknowledged and some time spent processing them to release the build-up. This is not obsessing, but informed, beneficial inner work.

The emotions you mention are all lower chakra related. They could be reactive emotions, but it's more likely they are connected with your core feelings, because the lower chakras correspond to these feelings. So, I would say you are correct in processing these feelings and not ignoring them, especially since they are so strong.  And, of course, it follows they correspond to the lower body issues you mention. So in your case, it looks like the reactive feelings and the core feelings are mostly the same: fear, helplessness, anger  (first, second, and third chakras).

With physical pain and illness, our approach is the same as with a reactive emotion. Many times, we don't know the feelings involved, so we start by focusing on the physical SENSATIONS, applying the process and bringing in the healing energies - and - applying witnessing, which is the same as Jon Cabot-Zinn's mindfulness method of handling pain. Once you get the core feeling, you can shift to that, but there is still nothing wrong with continuing to process the body sensations including pain along with the core feeling when working with a physical affliction-core feeling, and I feel it's helpful. That's how I do it with clients. We alternate between them.

Witnessing is the key. You have to keep practicing until you have the experience of what it is. You can't ignore pain, and trying to distract yourself doesn't work that well either. Witnessing and mindfulness are what would be called for, but if you give that a good try and find it's not enough, don't hesitate to use pain meds if you can.

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Re: mindbody syndrome and physical pain
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014 »
John,

thank you ever so much for this powerful and helpful reply. I realised that some information was missing in my first post that would have helped with explaining the mindbody approach that I mentioned. So, here is more info. The main approach of tuning into emotions rather than focusing on the physical symptoms was taken from Dr Sarno's book 'Mindbody Prescription', who some 40 years ago claimed that many illnesses originate in suppressed and repressed emotions. In his book he relied on Freudian psychoanalysis, claiming that the core feeling being repressed is narcissistic rage. The mindbody approach developed further from that point, although the mind body connection is their basic premise. Today they mostly endorse ACT (Acceptance and commitment theory), which I personally think is much more concerned with mindfulness than Freudian psychoanalysis.

I noticed that the witnessing recording helps most with relaxing into the physical pain. I tried it today having in mind what you wrote. Namely, I focused on the physical sensations and realised that after that it was fear that came up as a feeling. However, by not ignoring the physical pain, I was more able to sink into the pain rather than fight it. I also realised that in the last 2 weeks of working with your recordings, I was stuck with wanting to change the pain and make it go away.

I have one more question regarding yoga practice. I used to do hatha yoga before and would love to include this into the EC process, with the attitude you describe in the book. However, with the physical pain this is impossible at the moment. Is doing meditation while lying down (which is most comfortable) OK for me for the moment?

Thank you again
Andrea

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Re: mindbody syndrome and physical pain
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014 »
Thank you, John. Your reply helped me as well. Appreciate the time you take to respond in detail.

Peace.