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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Challenges with the relaxation audio
« Last post by milli on December 11, 2022 »
Hello John,

Last night I tried the relaxation audio. Thank you for making this available to use for free.

I had several challenges with the process.

1.) I've rarely been able to visualize on demand. I can lie in bed and visualize the various details of my apartment, because I see them everyday. But when a guided meditation asks me to visualize something I haven't had direct experience with before--such as white light entering the top of my head, or a ball of light moving or expanding, or energy being sent down into the Earth--I am unable to do this. The best I can do (to stay relaxed and avoid trying to force something) is to listen to the voice narrating the meditation and hope that my inner self is creating the experience for me.

Do you have any suggestions for people like me who have trouble visualizing?

2.) Another challenge was with the word negative. From reading the website, I understood that this method is about becoming aware of and accepting our negative emotions, allowing them to clear. I was confused by being asked to use white light to get rid of negative energy.

Can you share what you mean in this context by the word negative?

3.) I was unable to feel deeply when asked to, such as when the meditation directed me to deeply feel the masculine qualities and then the feminine qualities. I didn't feel anything during those parts, except dismay that I wasn't feeling them deeply. I was also unable to feel the witness.

My most noticeable experience during the meditation was becoming very relaxed. But when your voice came back on suggesting I could come back from outer space, I was dismayed because, even by that stage, I was still aware of being in the room.

Is there a way to develop the capacity to feel these things deeply when right now I don't feel them at all?

Thank you,
Milli

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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: Perception Shift and Confusion
« Last post by jarrodgötze on November 19, 2022 »
Hi John, Thanks a lot for the reply. I have to say, I'm stumped. You dedicated a whole chapter in your new book to 'reframing' and the importance of it but now you've labelled reframing as a "completely ignorant travesty"? Slight contradiction but not to worry. I'm guessing I should just disregard that chapter then. Also, both of your books are full of other mental reframing examples. Even the concept of 'acceptance' is reframing your attitude towards emotions (you change your perception of them from 'bad' to neutral/good. You purposely choose to reframe your attitude about life by believing in a higher self, afterlife, reincarnation etc instead of just processing feelings related to having a lack of purpose/emptiness. 'Taking responsibility' for emotions is also an example of reframing. It's not been made clear about where to draw the line.

It's true that I probably haven't gotten to a core feeling yet, that's an interesting point! I assumed regret was a core feeling but I guess you're right. Thanks again John.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: Perception Shift and Confusion
« Last post by John Ruskan on November 18, 2022 »
You have a good understanding of the principles, but I don't agree about 'reframing' emotions even though you say you were helped by doing so while you were also using the EC Process. Reframing, or seeing things differently, is what CBT relies upon, which I consider a completely ignorant travesty that has evolved psychology backwards, in line with the current backward evolution of society in general as technology advances. Reframing may spontaneously occur after feelings have been successfully integrated, but it is not part of the EC protocol. The whole thrust of the EC Process is to go beyond the mind and be present with the energetic experience of the feelings.

What I'm seeing here is that you may have been processing regret, but this is only a first-level emotion, and not a core feeling. (Similar to guilt and shame being first-level emotions, but the core feelings behind need to be addressed.) You have not indicated that you have been working with a core feeling, which would be something like insignificance, worthlessness, failure, not being good enough, etc., relating to the solar plexus Significance center. The core feeling is part of a dualistic syndrome such as accomplishment/insignificance. Striving for the positive will never bring the suppressed negative into balance, hence, the need for EC work.

Regarding your other question, I think you have a point, but once awareness realizes that it may be ok to live with some degree of confusion, it becomes a personal judgment call about when to allow confusion or seek to understand.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Perception Shift and Confusion
« Last post by jarrodgötze on November 17, 2022 »
Hello again John.

I have a question about interpretation/ a shift in perception as a technique to use alongside processing emotions. For example, in Deep clearing {which, by the way, I wrote a review for on Amazon only for them to tell me that I had not spent enough money on my amazon account to write a review! So I will keep it saved and post it once I've spent enough}, you spoke about 'reframing your experience'- making a conscious decision to perceive a negative event/emotion as an opportunity to clear suppressed contents as opposed to seeing it as a burden. This was a really interesting part of the book and made me think about this topic in more detail. You also talk about how shame & guilt are unnecessary because they can be resolved with a reframed perception of why it is you feel shameful (bringing your understanding to a spiritual level and seeing the bigger picture). Both of these are examples of the importance of reframing your mindset instead of ONLY processing emotions with no mental involvement.

I was meditating on 'regret' and other emotions relating to feeling as if I had wasted my potential and fallen behind other people my age in terms of success and accomplishments and found it to be quite overwhelming, even though I was applying acceptance and witnessing correctly. I then tried to reframe my perception of these problems- I reminded myself that everyone has a unique, incomparable life path and that these feelings of regret and sadness are not actually steeped in any accuracy. I did this whilst simultaneously processing the feelings {witnessing the feelings but at the same time, realising that they don't resemble the truth} and I found it to be much more tolerable and pleasant. I also felt I had successfully released a significant amount of those particular feelings after doing it every day for a week. In the same breath, I was worried that I was not FULLY experiencing the emotions because I am conscious of the fact that EC is very cautious around using thoughts to wash out negative emotions.

It also reminded me of the famous Roosevelt quote "Comparison is the thief of joy". What do you think of this approach?

Also, another quick question if I may. It's about confusion. This forum is a brilliant platform and helps to resolve confusion for a lot of EC followers, but do you think sometimes we (the human race in general) are too quick to ask detailed questions in exchange for detailed answers as opposed to accepting and experiencing the confusion and maybe frustration around not having everything 'figured out'? This is relating to page 112 of deep clearing where you label 'confusion' and 'distress' as valid  emotions to process instead of "Overemphasizing logical thinking as a means to resolve issues." So when do we draw the line between getting a good understanding of a topic and processing the confusion as a valid emotion?

Thanks John, I hope these questions are somewhat interesting.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: friendly questions
« Last post by Kat on November 17, 2022 »
John,

Many thanks for your great answer! I got it all. Especially like the part about "The goal of the philosophy of dualistic awareness is always to transcend attachment to the positive and aversion to the negative. In so doing, we evolve past being trapped in any particular lower self dualistic syndrome."

Now: Do you have any ability to "divine" winning lottery numbers? If not, I won't think any less of you. . . .  :D 

Until next time,

Kat
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: friendly questions
« Last post by John Ruskan on November 16, 2022 »
Interesting questions, but here's where you're going wrong: "why spend time disidentifying with the lower Self; why not honor it as much as you do your Higher Self." Maybe this point is made better in Deep Clearing, but a central idea of EC work is to validate (accept, acknowledge, experience, honor) lower self feelings and spend quality time with them instead of unconsciously rejecting (dishonoring) them. Breaking identification is not the same as dishonoring. Unconscious identification with lower self attributes (body, emotions, thoughts, intellect) is the quagmire from which we are attempting to evolve. Shifting awareness to the higher self through witnessing has always been the emphasis of traditional Eastern enlightenment. The EC philosophy imparts a new attitude towards the lower self which I would say does indeed truly honor it without being enmeshed in it.

As you bring heightened enlightened awareness to the lower self, you can think of it as co-existing as a dualistic complement to the higher self if you want but your goal is always to maintain witnessing detachment of the lower self while at the same time recognizing and honoring it. In other words, you are 'owning' the lower self while detaching. You could say you are identifying with it in a new, more enlightened way. The goal of the philosophy of dualistic awareness is always to transcend attachment to the positive and aversion to the negative. In so doing, we evolve past being trapped in any particular lower self dualistic syndrome.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / friendly questions
« Last post by Kat on November 15, 2022 »
Hello John,

I have some friendly questions for you.

This year, in one of your books, I was happy to find a detailed explanation of the word "opposites"--e.g., night and day, black and white, hot and cold, etc. According to you, and I agree with your position on the matter, each pair of opposites contains a complement of the other half. So when I read on page 185 of Emotional Clearing that we humans aren't really our Lower Selves, we're our Higher Selves, and that we shouldn't identify with the Lower Self--I became confused.

Thus, if dualities are always going to exist in everything, no matter how much we evolve or how much external conditions change, why can we not, as students of spiritual development, solidly identify with both of our Selves? Of course, your textbooks clearly speak to the need to accept, own, experience,  witness, and integrate the feelings, emotions, and all of the projections coming from the Lower Self, but your written narratives seem to stop short of identifying with the Lower Self.

Therefore, my end concern here is: If both Selves are always going to be present, no matter how spiritually advanced we become, after a certain point (when the student is ready, of course), why spend time disidentifying with the lower Self; why not honor it as much as you do your Higher Self, because it's one half of a never-ending psychological-spiritual continuum? Another thing: Could identifying with both the higher and lower selves be an unspoken goal of all spiritual practice? Just asking ....  :D

Is it possible this post contains signs that my Higher Self has become more visible to me and has intimated it has always unreservedly accepted all of me?

I can easily drop these speculations if need be and simply return to the rest of my spiritual practice, applying the instructions from your books, which seem absolutely spot-on to me! After all, I just started working with Emotional/Deep Clearing in July, so I can't claim to be any sort of expert. Just eager to learn and be all that I can.

Thanks for an answer, whatever it is . . . .

With Love,

Kat 
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: Use of binaural beats for EM clearing sessions
« Last post by Dean on November 15, 2022 »
Thank you, John.  I appreciate your reply.
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: Use of binaural beats for EM clearing sessions
« Last post by John Ruskan on November 11, 2022 »
Yes, when I say 'alpha' I'm implying alpha or lower, so the 4 - 12 range is fine, and the extra nature sounds are ok as well.

Thanks for the Amazon review!
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THE EMOTIONAL CLEARING PROCESS / Re: Getting off xanax
« Last post by Dean on November 10, 2022 »
I don't know the right answer but thought I'd share that I am thinking similar things.  Been on antidepressants for over 25 years.  Current regimen is 300mg bupropion, 300 mg venlafaxine, supplemented with L-Methylfolate and fish oil.

Been doing EM clearing sessions 45 minutes a day most days for about 4 weeks.  My initial positive experience make me think maybe this is a pathway by which I could wean off antidepressants for good.  In my case, I will take it slow.  What I mean by that is that I'll likely give the EM clearing practicing at least 6 months before considering stopping medication, and possibly longer. 

Chances are, if I decide to stop, I'll taper very slowly across half a year or longer, and continue to see my psychiatrist once every 3 months during the taper and for at least a year afterward. 

We'll see though.  I believe each person is unique.  Your history with Xanax is not the same as my history with antidepressants.  I would think that if the EM clearing practice is sufficient to get either of us off pyschotropic meds, one of the ways it would do that is by helping us think clearly enough and be in tune enough to our internal intuition such that we can make choices about discontinuing medication with wisdom and confidence.
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